Cinnabar, Wine Lounge and Jakarta Night Life: where do we go?

Some bar in Central Jakarta
Where do we go out after a long, hard week? Last night I was out with a friend and after dinner we felt like going to a wine lounge. So we hit the place called Vin+ (good wine collection with decent price). We bought a bottle of Shiraz, took it to the lounge with an expectation that we can just laze on the sofa with light music. Instead, we sat on the bar and looked around. The crowd: young people, what we call “ABG”. The guys wearing t-shirts, underpants racing with the jeans and baseball hat (got the age?). The women wears jeans and nothing flashy. But these are really young kids that I had to ask, “Is there an age limit to enter this place”?. Early 20s, if not students, maybe 2 or 3 years work experience. We call them ABG (Anak Baru Gede, kids that just grew up). Interesting, must make good money (though I saw they share 1 bottle of chardonnay with the 8 of them, but who knows how many they have had).
I expected a lounge would be a place where they play lounge music. Something like the “Cafe Del Mar” type of music. At the end, the music was like dance music. I did try to call the bartender to change the music and explain the concept of a LOUNGE. My friend told me that if I do that, they will definetely know exactly that I am old. OK, at least, we can still talk to each other, fine-lah.
There are at least 3 places that I know on Kemang now as a wine place. Vino Embassy is another one which has a good collection of wine. The place is like a restaurant though, they serve food (not too good except for the calamari). It is too smokey, a bit crowded and when the night comes, the music becomes like dance music (in a wine lounge???) and hard to talk to each other. Lights are off, just like disco. It’s a good place to go early evenings, drink sparkling wine or chardonnay and leave before people come.
So me and my friend was talking about places that we would like to hang out. We miss Cinnabar (used to be at Wisma Gani Jemat). Why do we think that place was the best? Simply because we liked the environment. The people that comes there are interesting from different backgrounds. Lawyers, journalist, brokers, just common people trying to chill out. No ‘ayam’ (literally means chicken, but it means working girls looking to find a man that can financially support her). Too bad, no more Cinnabar. Face Bar is probably the other decent place to go to.
One night, me and my friends ended up at X2, Plaza Senayan. Boy, didn’t we feet like parents looking for their kids. Mind you, I am in my late 30s and my friends are early 40s. X2 is where young chinese students/2-3 years workers go out and make themselves stupid drunk. At least that is what I heard from a person that used to work for X2.
If you look along Kemang, lots of them are these ABGs. Kemang Food Festival, and just look at them on the streets, parking their cars or waiting for a cab. Very, very young crowd. Must be doing well these youngsters. But admit it, people in that age with only that much experience is a bit hard to relate with us, who are now mostly managers, seniors, in our mid 30s or late 40s. We do like to go out once in a while when work gets into us. Where should we go then?
So what happens to singles in their mid 30s living in Jakarta? Cinnabar was a great place, has a class, not too upscaled but good to meet interesting new people. Why did it close down? And where should we hang out?
Here is the list and examples of places people like me go to and/or don’t go to:
- We don’t go where there are old expats and lots of ‘ayam’. We don’t hang out at Blok M. This is a place where lots of underaged prostitutes who can only do sign languages and expired expats hangs out. Of course, you won’t find us here.
- We do like to go to Dragonfly, although the music is sometimes loud that you cannot listen to each other talk, it is still a nice crowd. No ayam, if there is any, possibly high class ayam. Usually we go there in groups, then meet other groups, and end up being in a big group dancing. People who comes here are from the working class, middle to upper class, with various background, age spread is late 20s to early 40s. Wednesday nights they play retro, the 80s. Now that fits (am I old or what???) . Blowfish is usually also a good place to hang out, but I haven’t been there for ages. Burgundy in Grand Hyatt is a pretty decent place. Used to be hip at one time. The band is good, and not too crowded.
- Some of us like hanging out with expats/looking for expats. Not those who are invisible in their countries but now feeling like ‘God’s gift to Woman’ (the ‘ayams’ here are really good at boosting their self esteem!). Here is what I used to do when I hung out with my oil company buddies: start at Bugils in Taman Senayan for early drinks, eat, then sometimes I go together to move to B.A.T.S (Shangri La) or Tigapuluh (Le Meridian), but when they go to Blok M, I split. Bugils is a place where you chill down before you have dinner, beer, or light gin & tonic. 95% expat, 5% Indonesian, mostly ayams these days (not like that back then though). If there is a woman with a real job there, she might be there with her boyfriend, waiting for her boyfriend, or hanging out with other girlfriends, or expat females. I rarely go there even with my friends these days. They have Thursday night quizzes, too.
- B.A.T.S. has good music, good food, the scene is old expired fat expats feeling handsome like Prince Harry with a young ayam, dancing like a frog in a blender. My Italian friends once took me there to be a chicken repellant. Sigh. Really pathetic view, though. If I go there, usually with bunch of friends, group of minimum of 6. Dance our ass off and leave. No mingling because the guys are…just not going to meet our bars. Tigapuluh is the same, with worse music. Same scene. Not that we don’t like expats, we find them interesting, but those you meet at BATS or Bugils, probably are those you will have business with if you are in the oil industry, or the ones that you will just forget. Cazbar at Mega Kuningan and Eastern Promise at Kemang is also managed by the same guys from Bugils. Eastern Promise is pretty good, have good Samosas there, now they play jazz on Wednesday nights. Not as many ‘ayams’ there, just lots of expats.
- A place with very young people like ABG is definetely not going to make us fit, like X2 at Plaza Senayan, or Embassy at Taman Ria Senayan.
- A place as wild as Stadium is definetely not a place we soberly will go to…maybe in a group of 50 like when we had Robs 50th birthday. It feels like hell to me!
- What is left then? Red Top is a pretty good place, but it is pretty crowded. The Wine Lounge at the Four Season is a good place, usually older crowds there, but a good place to bring your good friends and catch up.
- Like dancing? Pitty Salsa Club is gone, but Thursday night there is Salsa at Mistere, Ritz Carlton. If you are into ballroom dancing, go to Bugs, but expect older crowds (50+, but what’s wrong with that?).
Usually when I go out with friends, we go to a restaurant, drink wine there. But what if I’m in a mood of going out and meeting new people? Where should I, in my late 30s, go out and hang out with my friends, and meet interesting people, just like the good ol’ Cinnabar time? Not that we are against younger people, sometimes they are interesting (for the first 5 minutes) but honestly, men with their underwear racing with their jeans are just not one of those….
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September 10, 2007 at 6:25 pm
hi…gw pernah lihat loe di latino night..sama sama penggemar salsa and diving…
bagus tulisannya…mature enough…
kapan kapan kita copy darat yaaaa
September 15, 2007 at 5:41 am
why dont you make your own bar with your own concept?
with regular visitor ofcourse.. just for chillin’ out.
September 15, 2007 at 10:26 am
Irdix, no moneylah…but just encouraged one of my buddy who’s an enterprenour (spelling terrible here) who’s making a resto-lounge. I’ll put it in my review when it opens up next year! For now, I guess Cork & Screw will be ok!
September 15, 2007 at 10:02 pm
I recognise the problem. You are in a niche. Female, late 30s, single (I assume).
It’s the same all over the world, apart from the sleazball fat/old/grey/bald/bules.
My answer is to lie about my age. In the dark, when its late, and the girls are drunk, I can get away with being… hmmmmmmm
September 18, 2007 at 5:59 pm
One Ayam made sure I got back to the Hilton late one night. I was VERY drunk. Unconscious. I woke on the bathroom floor. She had taken good care of me. I was covered in a blanket, still in my underpants. Amazingly she was still in the room, watching MTV. Nothing had been stolen, and she had kept a record of the taxi fare and tip. My wallet looked ok.
I took her down to breakfast. She was still in her “working” clothes. The waiter served me but studiously ignored her. I threatened to punch him if he did not attend to my guest. Instead she got up and made her excuse to leave. Everyone was indeed staring at us. I handed her more money than she would have made in a month.
She had looked after me. She could have left my lying in the doorway. She could have taken my watch and wallet. She could have emptied my room. Instead she looked after me.
I look after those who look after me, and I got give a damn what the world thinks.
September 21, 2007 at 7:34 am
Went to the Face Bar couple of nights ago and it is a good crowd for professionals. Careful with the margaritas. Another good place, I heard, is Cork and Screw on Jl. Rasuna Said. Several people have recommended the place.
September 23, 2007 at 6:57 pm
guys,
AYAM IS ALSO HUMAN BEING…UDAHLAH..JAGA HARGA DIRI MASING MASING…RESPECT EACH OTHER..GAK PERLU TUH ANGGAP REMEH DAN MERASA LEBIH TINGGI KELASNYA….kalo ketemu di bats, sama sama enjoy aja ..atau sirik karena gak dapat kenalan nih
September 29, 2007 at 9:54 pm
Parvita My Friends,
For a woman like you, the place she belongs is the Mesjid. I do congratulate you on your search for a man; how can you fulfil your duties as a woman without a husband ?
But perhaps you should practice introspection. This is not something the Westerner is good at. The Westerner will only find sin, ugliness and hypocrisy. Self-knowledge for an unpurified Westerner will not bring peace. But for you, Parvita, why are you wasting your time in this life on places like BATS, Blok M, Vin etc.
Better than the names I read on this Blog are Istiqhlal, Al Azhar, Sunda Kelapa (close to your alcoholic watering-hole of Cinnabar).
Friend, as I said before, better you:
* Wear the Jilbab
* Read the al-Quran.
* Practice Islam
* Be a Good Muslim woman.
Oke ?
September 30, 2007 at 8:50 am
Aaaaaah, my friend Achmad Sudarsono found me here! The white man in disguise! Welcome to my blog, my Man! Btw, that blog of yours, change the picture, Sumanto is out of date. Sincerely, I’m so happy you are here, Man!
October 18, 2007 at 3:58 pm
Glad you left good comments about Cazbar & Eastern Promise… will pass your comments to Jasper (Caz) and Lens (EP) and the other shareholders. I agree with your comment about Bugil’s, it’s used to be fun to hang out there, but before I left the countries I went to Bugil’s several times and it’s not the same anymore although they still serve the best spaghetti tuna (the restaurant is managed by KOI) and I love the crazy barmaids.
October 18, 2007 at 5:12 pm
Spaghetti tuna at Bugils is great! They put the right amount of spices there. Pretty hot! Good you pointed that out.
October 24, 2007 at 6:57 am
Not all bule like ayam and not all bule like hang out at the bar scene. Bules who practice their christian faith are unexposed. Thanks for Hollywood! Btw, thanks for your reviews Parvita! I’ll be back to Jakarta next year.
November 12, 2007 at 5:03 pm
Your posting is very relevant. I feel the pain. I’m in my early 30s and getting a little tired of clubs with ABGs. My 2 favorites in Jakarta are Cork & Screw (though it is a pain to get a table) & Bacchus (at the basement of the Intercontinental – MidPlaza).
November 24, 2007 at 1:47 pm
Thanks for the review really. I am from Jkt but I’ve been spending too much time overseas I’m lost as to where to hang out back at home. At least now I know which places to avoid
November 29, 2007 at 5:27 pm
@Sam: thanks for the info. I haven’t got the time to search for good places again (I hate the traffic!), I hope I can make it to Bacchus.
By the way, I heard Bugils closed down.
Another fun place to hang out is Trattoria. Yes, it is the branch of the one in Seminyak, Bali. Pretty decent restaurant, good food (I love the pizzas), but not a place where you meet new people. There are two Trattorias, one in Pondok Indah and one in Kuningan.
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December 26, 2007 at 11:11 pm
I have nothing against the ayams. They’re working, I get it. But what’s up with the killer look? My girlfriends and I were at BATS few years ago, not knowing that it had become the ayams’ headquarter. My gosh, they didn’t like us at all there. We weren’t going to steal their customers away, we didn’t even wear lusty outfit. When we were on the dance floor, they tried to intimidate us. We decided not to get scared that easily, we stayed til the bar’s close but definitely not going back there.
January 4, 2008 at 11:36 pm
Retro clothing is the bomb! My favorite place to find it is Goodwill or any thrift store. Ebay is also a great place to find what you are looking for.
January 11, 2008 at 8:46 pm
I am looking for a particular lady called Rosina/Rosy Zakaria. Anyone of you guys know her? Understand she hangs at Burgundy and CJs. Would appreciate if anyone could hook me up with this lady.
January 15, 2008 at 11:53 am
just a suggestion, if you’re thinking of coffee, forget the older establishment like starbucks, etc and try the black canyon coffee at cipete raya. one of the newer establishments in jakarta. best thing about it is they have their own building. expect mid-20s to late 30s customers. just went there last friday and came back the next sunday. definitely a nice place..
cheers!
January 15, 2008 at 11:57 am
maap lupa, kopi-nya di black canyon, by far one the best served in jakarta.
oh and if you’re still wondering if there’s a place with a nice ambience, you definitely must try the majapahit lounge at the dharmawangsa hotel (if you haven’t been there already). killer chocolate martini.
cheers!
January 15, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Hi Andra, thanks for your comment. I’ve passed Black Canyon several times now because it is close to where I live, and I will definetely have a try there. I hope there is free WIFI as well.
January 16, 2008 at 4:42 pm
sorry to say, disana gak ada wi-fi huhu.. maybe in the next couple of months kali yah? do visit my facebook, just search Andra Maulana on the search thingy
supposedly i’m the only Andra Maulana there is at the moment on Facebook hehehe..
cheers!
January 31, 2008 at 6:49 am
Why do the women degrade themselves to the old fat men for money? or to any man for money for that reason? I don’t understand why these men think they are something when these women are looking at them as profits. Sure they may get one freebie for exchange for some money the next time
April 3, 2008 at 7:09 pm
I realy need your comment!
especially to all girls/women/young ladies readers….
Is it worthy if I would build a new concept entertainment for ladies?
as long as I know, most places in Jakarta serve male services, how about female services, some times girls need an escape isnt it?
please feel free to text me to: welcome_to_jakarta@operamail.com, thanks!
May 23, 2008 at 8:24 am
Jealous old hag. You don’t go to X2 because you can’t stand how young we are and how OLD you are. Maybe you can’t hear yourself speak because you deaf, lah.
May 25, 2008 at 6:33 pm
@Cinta: I’ve been there done that, and my stage right now, it’s called ‘maturing’. Where you enjoy conversation with nice glass of wine, without puking yourself and pass out in front of the lift. You enjoy your moment of life!
November 18, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Hi,
if you check the website http://jakarta100bars.blogspot.com, u have a very good list of bars and clubs to go to in Jakarta.
Cheers,
Hervé
December 31, 2008 at 11:35 am
stumbled across the blog and it’s pretty good…
I think I’ll give Cork & Screw a try then, since my friends are always urging me to go there but I haven’t got the chance to…
Oh, and for BCC in Cipete Raya, they got free Wi-fi for the customers.. (^_^)
Happy New Year. everyone!!
March 9, 2009 at 12:29 am
Now Cork and Screw is open at Plaza Indonesia. Haven’t checked the place yet. The one at Wisma Kodel is still there.
April 16, 2009 at 9:49 am
Recentlly, Budha Bar & Loewy are worth to visit. Those places are perfect for hanging out and chatting. Full of young & middle age crowd, both local & foreigner. Loewy doesnt have a lot of option for food. Mostly light food, but its quite enough, and the taste is good. Anyway, we’re paying for the ambience, warm, friendly, no loud music.
This places is always crowded, reserved in advance will be better. As well as Budha Bar, comfy couches and chairs are difficult to come, unless you’re lucky.
Well, I was not lucky on my first visit in Budha Bar, I had 2 bad experiences, first when I called for reservation, someone on the phone said, I dont have to make reservation for the lounge, its only suggested for dinner in 2nd Fl, so when I got there, no space were available. And the second, when I called the Bar and asked for direction , someone over the phone made me lost and have to turn arround Gambir and back to Cut Mutia. But anyway, I enjoyed the quility time with friends, so it could ease my dissapointment.
Those places looks dont have ‘ayam’ in it. The visitor are looking educated and look mostly from bussiness workers. Not like BATS, i agree with all negative comments about BATS about a lot of aggresive ‘ayam’. This place is teribble, Indeed, I dont like this place. I had bad experience with this place.
November 10, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Parvita or anyone knowledgeable,
OMG! Where shall I take me man. Any suggestions on Red Square, X2 or Dragonfly Lounge? I’m new here. Where shall I go and not encounter the Ayams…Is it true that when men get drunk in bars and clubs they become dead vulnerable to Ayams collecting their numbers and get all touchy-feely esp when expat guys are w/o ladies…and they are quite agressive I heard! Where shall I go and where shall I not go?