Ramadhan and Saum: not eating and drinking during Ramadhan is not in the Qur’an

I always have this passage whenever I listen to preachers, or have discussion with my fellow believers, from Al Baqarah (I read the Bahasa and translate to the English version by A.J. Arberry): 

2:3. (yaitu) mereka yang beriman kepada yang ghaib, yang mendirikan shalat, dan menafkahkan sebahagian rezki yang Kami anugerahkan kepada mereka. ~Who believe in the Unseen, and perform the prayer, and expend of that We have provided them 

2:4. dan mereka yang beriman kepada Kitab (Al Quran) yang telah diturunkan kepadamu dan Kitab-kitab yang telah diturunkan sebelummu, serta mereka yakin akan adanya (kehidupan) akhirat.  ~who believe in what has been sent down to thee and what has been sent down before thee, and have faith in the Hearafter; 

2:5. Mereka itulah yang tetap mendapat petunjuk dari Tuhan mereka, dan merekalah orang-orang yang beruntung. ~those are upon guidance from their Lord, those are the ones who prosper

Therefore, if you are going to use hadits in explaining the topic, you better just quit reading this now, because the Qur’an clearly tells me to believe in the Quran and those delivered before the Qur’an (i.e. Torah, Bible). 

As a person who questions in order to have faith, I often question the rituals in Islam.  One of them is about fasting, saum, or puasa (Bahasa).  Is this how Muhammad, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Joseph, Noah and the others do saum (I will use the word ’saum’ because that is the word in the Qur’an)? 

Eat before the sunrise, restrict yourself during the light, and eat when the sunsets?  As Qur’an is universal, it should apply to everybody in equal matter.  How do people in Alaska do it during summer?  And during winter?  If saum is for everybody, how do people who basically cannot afford food do saum?

Is there a Hijriah calendar before Muhammad?  Didn’t the Hijriah calendar started after Muhammad died?  If not, how did Abraham and those who lived before Muhammad know that he has to saum during Ramadhan?  Does Moses know fasting during Ramadhan?

Because we are told to follow the people that has been enlightened by God (the prophets, the rosuls), and they are God’s follower (i.e. islam), should I only follow them and what has been told by God. 

Up to here, if you think this posting is offending, by all respect, please visit other writings on my blog.  Only Qur’an will be mentioned here, nothing else.  And if you have the urge to enlighten me, by all means, please do.  I would like to read other opinion as well.

When talking about saum, lots of people refer to this:

2:183: orang-orang yang beriman, diwajibkan atas kamu berpuasa sebagaimana diwajibkan atas orang-orang sebelum kamu agar kamu bertakwa,

Oh believers, prescrived for you is the Fast, even as it was prescrived for those that were before you-haply you will be godfearing- 

 2:184. (yaitu) dalam beberapa hari yang tertentu. Maka barangsiapa diantara kamu ada yang sakit atau dalam perjalanan (lalu ia berbuka), maka (wajiblah baginya berpuasa) sebanyak hari yang ditinggalkan itu pada hari-hari yang lain. Dan wajib bagi orang-orang yang berat menjalankannya (jika mereka tidak berpuasa) membayar fidyah, (yaitu): memberi makan seorang miskin. Barangsiapa yang dengan kerelaan hati mengerjakan kebajikan, maka itulah yang lebih baik baginya. Dan berpuasa lebih baik bagimu jika kamu mengetahui.

for days numbered; and if any of you be sick, or if he be on a journey, then a number of other days; and for those who are able to fast, a redemtion by feeding a poor man.  Yet better it is for him who volunteers good, and that you should fast is better for you, if you but know;

2:185. (Beberapa hari yang ditentukan itu ialah) bulan Ramadhan, bulan yang di dalamnya diturunkan (permulaan) Al Quran sebagai petunjuk bagi manusia dan penjelasan-penjelasan mengenai petunjuk itu dan pembeda (antara yang hak dan yang bathil). Karena itu, barangsiapa di antara kamu hadir (di negeri tempat tinggalnya) di bulan itu, maka hendaklah ia berpuasa pada bulan itu, dan barangsiapa sakit atau dalam perjalanan (lalu ia berbuka), maka (wajiblah baginya berpuasa), sebanyak hari yang ditinggalkannya itu, pada hari-hari yang lain. Allah menghendaki kemudahan bagimu, dan tidak menghendaki kesukaran bagimu. Dan hendaklah kamu mencukupkan bilangannya dan hendaklah kamu mengagungkan Allah atas petunjuk-Nya yang diberikan kepadamu, supaya kamu bersyukur.

The month of Ramadan, wherein the Koran was sent down to be a quidance to the people, and as clear signs of Guidance and the Salvation.  So let those of you, who are preset at the month, fast it; and if any of you be sick, or if he be on a journey then a number of other days; God desires ease for you, and desires not hardship for you; and that you fulfil the number, and magnify God that He has guided you, and haply you will be thankful.

Mind you the word ’saum’ in Arabic is translated to ‘fast’, and to ‘puasa’ in Bahasa. 

Up to here, this is what is common to hear this during any sermons, ustadz says you have to fast during Ramadhan based on these passages.  The question is, how?  How did those before us do saum?  Following is 2:187

2:187. Dihalalkan bagi kamu pada malam hari bulan puasa bercampur dengan isteri-isteri kamu; mereka adalah pakaian bagimu, dan kamupun adalah pakaian bagi mereka. Allah mengetahui bahwasanya kamu tidak dapat menahan nafsumu, karena itu Allah mengampuni kamu dan memberi ma’af kepadamu. Maka sekarang campurilah mereka dan ikutilah apa yang telah ditetapkan Allah untukmu, dan makan minumlah hingga terang bagimu benang putih dari benang hitam, yaitu fajar. Kemudian sempurnakanlah puasa itu sampai (datang) malam, (tetapi) janganlah kamu campuri mereka itu, sedang kamu beri’tikaf dalam mesjid. Itulah larangan Allah, maka janganlah kamu mendekatinya. Demikianlah Allah menerangkan ayat-ayat-Nya kepada manusia, supaya mereka bertakwa.

Permitted to you, upon the night of the Fast, is to go in to your wives; they are a vestment for you, and you are a vestment for them.  God knows that you have been betraying yourselves, and has turned to you and pardoned you.  So now lie with them, and seek what God has prescribed for you.  And eat and drink, until the white thread shows clearly to you from the black thread at dawn; then complete the Fast unto the night, and do not lie with thme while you cleave to the mosques.  Those are God’s bounds; keep well within them.  So God makes clear His signs to men; haply they will be godfearing.  

Saum, has to be done in Ramadan. It is explained that Ramadan (holy month, to some) is when the Al Quran is sent to us, delivered to us from God, as a guidance.  And we have to do saum when Al Quran, or the messages, has been delivered to us.  This means, holy month can be anytime.  It can come to you anytime, when God permits, and when God is willing to give the light to anybody who seeks it.  And when the light shone your soul, your ruh, that is when you have to saum, or, you have to fast.  This doesn’t restrict you to do saum only on the Ramadhan month according to the Hijriah calendar.  It just clearly says that you have to saum when Al Quran is delivered to you”.  Which can be anytime.  During the night, midnight, evening, morning, whenever God picks you to be enlightened and to be salvated, to be guided by God.  Didn’t Al Quran was delivered by God via Gabriel little by little, in small amounts?  And wouldn’t it be like that to us human beings?  When we seek, we will be enlightened.  The more you seek the truth in Quran, the more you will be enlightened, the more you have to saum.  Which means, we have to saum everyday when you have been enlightened by God. 

Reading 2:187, it is said “and eat and drink, until the white thread shows clearly to you from the black thread at the dawn; and complete the Fast unto the night…”

I have been questioning “…until the white thread shows clearly to you from the black thread…”.  When will I can clearly differ a thin, black and white thread?  Because, I tried, during a full moon, you can still differ black and white thread.  Doesn’t this means that you have to saum the whole time?  And when we are, at one point, weak (the example here is when you have sex with your wives, because that is the only time, besides asleep, when you don’t remember God), we cannot differ the black and white, the right and wrong?  Then continue the saum when you, again, be enlightened and able to see the right and wrong.  And pay off the days you were in the dark (i.e. when you were “betraying’ yourself).

Whatis saum, what does saum exactly means?  So far, in my understanding is, following the Quran to get to our final destination: God.  Saum means learn and practise.  Learn the teachings and the messages that God gives.  Which involves, be kind to your parents, neighbours, give to those who needs, patient, etc.  Avoid all that will not benefit.  Saum means to follow what God has commanded through Quran.  When we are enlightened, we have to saum.  There are some days when we get confused or lost between the black and white (we are only human, aren’t we?).  When Fajr (dawn) comes, when the light comes to make us able to differ the black and white, you continue the saum. 

Saum is what everybody has to do, no matter where you are, what time you are.  Not only during Ramadhan according to the Hijriah calendar. It doesn’t say anything about not drinking and eating.  Because,

32. Katakanlah: “Siapakah yang mengharamkan perhiasan dari Allah yang telah dikeluarkan-Nya untuk hamba-hamba-Nya dan (siapa pulakah yang mengharamkan) rezki yang baik?” Katakanlah: “Semuanya itu (disediakan) bagi orang-orang yang beriman dalam kehidupan dunia, khusus (untuk mereka saja) di hari kiamat.” Demikianlah Kami menjelaskan ayat-ayat itu bagi orang-orang yang mengetahui.

Say: ‘Who has forbidden the ornaments of God which He brought forth for His servants, and the good things of His Providing?’. Say:’These, on the Day of Resurrection, shall be exclusively for those who believed in this present life.  So We distinguish the signs for a people who know’.

33. Katakanlah: “Tuhanku hanya mengharamkan perbuatan yang keji, baik yang nampak ataupun yang tersembunyi, dan perbuatan dosa, melanggar hak manusia tanpa alasan yang benar, (mengharamkan) mempersekutukan Allah dengan sesuatu yang Allah tidak menurunkan hujjah untuk itu dan (mengharamkan) mengada-adakan terhadap Allah apa yang tidak kamu ketahui.”

Say:’My Lord has only forbidden indecencies the inward and the outward, and the sin, and unjust insolence, and that you associate with God that for which He sent down never authority, and that you say concerning God such as you know not.’  

And An Nahl 114:  Maka makanlah yang halal lagi baik dari rezki yang telah diberikan Allah kepadamu; dan syukurilah nikmat Allah, jika kamu hanya kepada-Nya saja menyembah. ~So eat of what God has provided you lawful and good; and be you thankful for the blessing of God, if it be Him that you serve.

And Al Maidah 87: Hai orang-orang yang beriman, janganlah kamu haramkan apa-apa yang baik yang telah Allah halalkan bagi kamu, dan janganlah kamu melampaui batas. Sesungguhnya Allah tidak menyukai orang-orang yang melampaui batas. ~O believers, forbid not such good things as God has permitted you; and transgress not; God loves not transgressors.

And Al Maidah 88: Dan makanlah makanan yang halal lagi baik dari apa yang Allah telah rezekikan kepadamu, dan bertakwalah kepada Allah yang kamu beriman kepadaNya ~Eat of  what God has provided you lawful and good; and fell God, in whom  you are believers.

The definition of ‘eat’ and ‘food’ in Quran, should be read as ‘what goes into your body (including food we physically eat, and food for the soul, anything that goes into your body, and more importantly, your soul.  Because only your soul will go back to Allah.  Your body will be one with earth, becoming dust, as what we were created from. Which I might, if have time, blog about this.

Food is good, keeps you living, thinking, learning, gives you energy, why forbid?

17 Responses to “Ramadhan and Saum: not eating and drinking during Ramadhan is not in the Qur’an”

  1. Dear lovely parvita,

    I like the way you questioning things, it reminds me to myself.. but I guess you describe it better than I do. I can see you try to find your answer on the book of life (if I may say Qur’an that way) and reality. I agree.. it’s all there.

    I agree to most of things you’ve said especially to this one,

    ” [....] (tetapi) janganlah kamu campuri mereka itu, sedang kamu beri’tikaf dalam mesjid. Itulah larangan Allah, maka janganlah kamu mendekatinya. [....] ”

    even God said that the relation between us and Him are taking higher priority.. it’s a personal matter, even we are forbiden to talk about it with our spouse.. even Muhammad SAW didn’t tell about it to his wife, to his family, to everyone other… until they ask. :-)

    I take Muhammad SAW as an example, for years he know God since he was a kid and gabriel opens and wash his heart (enlighment), he talk about it to his uncle.. and his uncle forbid him to tell about it to anyone else.. so he save it and did it for himself.. he did ritual silently, secretly praising and as you can see.. Muhammad SAW tells about islam many years after he do it silently.. why ? is it becouse he’s uncertain ?

    if I may say..

    “lakum dinukum waliyadin”

    wich translated like this more or less..

    your believe are four you only, and what I believe is for you only.

    it’s okay to questioning things.. God give us that ability, and that ability I believe are also to see and understand others..

    uhmm.. for those who haven’t blindly do ritual anyway.. :p

    btw.. forgive if there is any mispelled words.. I’m still learning english.. :p~ :p~
    you are a thinker that enjoy life.. you know something.. it’s sexy. :P

  2. OMG… there’s something wrong in my comment.. :p

    the translation for “lakum dinukum waliyadin” supposed to be

    “your believe are four you only, and what I believe is for me only”

    I’m sorry :p I was eating when write this comment.. *so sorry*

  3. Open this link Parvita, it might be useful to you:

    http://www.answering-christianity.com/refutation_to_quranists.htm

  4. waw.. great.. I guess to refuse something means to understand thoose things.. to understands things we have to receive it at first.. funny eh..

  5. Nope, Irdix: I’ve never accepted anything that I don’t believe, that’s why I scored low in school, at least in Indonesian schools (because I kicked ass big time in the US of A).

    To believe and have faith in anything, you have to search for it. Faith is a big deal, that is why I have this section in my blog.

    Being a scientist, I have to search and ask lots of questions until I come to a conclusion. Because of my background, that’s the way I do with my faith, more or less. And that’s the way Ibrahim came to a conclusion that there is God. Perfect example.

    The answers from God are free, unlike answers from ulama2, or even from you Dad. Life is a never ending search, the more you read, the more you ask, the more you become a better person.

    ~Cheers.

  6. Parvita, you’re using Ibrahim (a.s.) as an example. But we’re not living in the age of Ibrahim (a.s.), when Islam as a religion and doctrine has not been developed as it has today. We can’t use the exact same approach anymore. Now, we have an established guidance and religion. Plus, we’re not the ummah of the prophet Ibrahim (a.s.), we are the ummah of Muhammad (s.a.w), hence we must follow his examples.

    You are free to believe anything you want, but we will all account for what we’ve done in life. The Quran-only approach had no precedence in Islamic theology, it was a recent development. We shouldn’t made things up that wasn’t taught by Rasullullah (s.a.w). Muhammad (s.a.w ) taught Islam (he delivered the Quran and teaches the Sunnah and Hadith), should we follow anything else (any other approach) that was not taught by him? Can we call those other things Islam as well? Or are they something new and invented? You decide.

  7. As for your question:

    “Is there a Hijriah calendar before Muhammad? Didn’t the Hijriah calendar started after Muhammad died? If not, how did Abraham and those who lived before Muhammad know that he has to saum during Ramadhan? Does Moses know fasting during Ramadhan?”

    Here’s the answer:

    Qur’an 2:183 “Oh you who believe, fasting is prescribed for you as it was prescribed for THOSE BEFORE YOU, so that you may learn self restraint.”

    Abraham (a.s.) and Moses (a.s.) and their ummah (people) were sent before Muhammad (s.a.w) and his ummah (which is us), weren’t they?

    2:187, it is said “and eat and drink, until the white thread shows clearly to you from the black thread at the dawn; and complete the Fast unto the night…”

    ‘until the white thread shows clearly to you from the black thread’ is an analogy to depicts the condition during the dawn, which roughly translates to when the day can clearly be differentiated from the night, or when the day had clearly begun and the night had clearly end. When is that time? The subuh (the dawn).

    Again Parvita, obviously you need to learn a lot more about your own religion. And those knowledge, unfortunately, can’t be attained from your scientific studies alone. You have to learn Islam from a knowledgeable person, not just read and try to understand, because your own experience and knowledge may not be enough to comprehend this religion..

    Wassalam

  8. Dear Jaka, thanks for the comments.

    I use all of the rasuls or the messangers because Islam teaches to not differentiate God’s messanger. From there, you already have not complied what is basic in Islam. I guess, you also have to learn and open The Book! I guess we are all learning here.

    2:183 clearly explains that Saum is a must for people before Muhammad. There is no difference what God told Ibrahim, Noah, Moses, Jesus etc from Muhammad.

    ‘until the white thread shows clearly to you from the black thread’

    The way I understand it is to infill yourself with knowledge, until the good and the bad is clear. You cannot understand the verses word by word, or only with brain. You have to use your sense, and heart. That point, I agree with you. That’s why I’m skeptical about ulama.

    If one interpret that as not eat and drink during the day, which means it is haram to eat and drink during the day in Ramadhan (which is again, brings back to, what is Ramadhan), it contradicts with the other verses which says what is haram and what is halal. And we are forbidden to turn around halal to haram and vise versa. What do you think of that then? Food is rizki. Gift. Knowledge, too. They are, halal. I cannot find a verse that says food is haram during some certain time, maybe you can enlighten me?

    And why God only told us to do it only for a month if it is good for us, not the whole entire life? While saum is ordered to be done as soon as you are enlightened. For practise? Don’t we have to practise for our entire life?

    Please keep posting.

    peace

  9. ehhehehe… I’m fasting.. and I’m eating as far as I need. when I feel hungry at noon.. then I’ll have luch.. when I don’t then I won’t. I do it simple.

  10. “I use all of the rasuls or the messangers because Islam teaches to not differentiate God’s messanger. From there, you already have not complied what is basic in Islam.”

    Actually, I think what “we shouldn’t differentiate God’s messengers” means that we shouldn’t differentiate our reverence for all those messengers, we shouldn’t consider certain messengers holy and flawless and others sinful and weak, we shouldn’t consider certain messengers as great and others petty, we shouldn’t accept the prophethood of some of them and reject the others. But it surely doesn’t mean we must follow all of them and their teachings.

    It’s like this, we must believe that the original Torah, Zabur, and Injeel was sent by Allah SWT and contains His true message, but that doesn’t mean that we should study and practice ALL of those scriptures, not while we have the Qur’an. Ibraham (a.s.) was sent for his people (the Israelites) in his time, and not for the rest of humanity until the end of days. It was Muhammad (s.a.w) who was sent for all humanity until the end of time.

    We must revere and believe in the truth that Ibrahim (a.s.) had brought from Allah SWT but it doesn’t mean we must follow him. First, because we’re not his ummah, and he was not sent for us but for the Israelites of long ago. Secondly, the logical consequence of following him is that you must follow the Torah instead of the Qur’an. You must pray in the manner exactly that Ibrahim (a.s.) had prescribed and do the other good deeds according to his teachings (in the Torah). Does that makes sense to do in this age?

    “And we are forbidden to turn around halal to haram and vise versa. What do you think of that then? Food is rizki. Gift. Knowledge, too. They are, halal. I cannot find a verse that says food is haram during some certain time, maybe you can enlighten me?”

    Certain halal food are haram at a certain time. For example, when they are bought using stolen money, or indeed, if they are stolen from someone else in the first place. Or when the halal food was mixed with haram substances like when we cook beef with pork. Another instance was when Allah SWT had prohibited us from eating them at a certain time, like during the Saum. It’s like when my mom cooks a certain dish (it’s halal) but she said she cooked them for my sister but I eat the food anyway without her consent, then the food is haram for me.

    “And why God only told us to do it only for a month if it is good for us, not the whole entire life? While saum is ordered to be done as soon as you are enlightened. For practise? Don’t we have to practise for our entire life?”

    Was that practical Parvita? Let’s say that if next year you receive enlightenment, then would you want to fast for the rest of your life? Can your lifestyle accommodate such daily and lifetime practice without causing physical problems for you in the long term? If the answer is no, does that mean you will never be able to receive enlightenment? That’s not fair, is it?

    Parvita, Islamic ulamas and jurists from all school of jurispudence believed that ‘until the white thread shows clearly to you from the black thread’ means until the dawn breaks. I know you are skeptical about ulamas but they are still more knowledgeable than you in religious matters. If everyone can interpret Islamic laws in the Quran by using their own variable judgment (as people have different levels of knowledge and different views), that will result in Islamic laws being interpreted into millions of interpretations.

    Tell me, what kind of a religion would Islam be if it have millions of interpretations on it’s religious law? In such a case, then that religion will closely resembles a vague branch of spirituality instead of a religion.

  11. Tell me, what kind of a religion would Islam be if it have millions of interpretations on it’s religious law? In such a case, then that religion will closely resembles a vague branch of spirituality instead of a religion.

    It already does, in case you don’t know. Sunni, Syiah, Ahmadiah to name some. In Indonesia, Muhammadiah and NU does things differently. If all refer to the Qur’an, not the various hadists (note: there are hundreds of hadits written by different people that lived hundred of years after Muhammad died) everything should be the same, because everybody refer to just the one book. In Christian, there are Advent, Baptist, Anglican, Souther Baptist (in the USA), Mormon, etc. History repeats itself; religion is used for politics.

    Just because ulamas spend more time doesn’t mean that they know everything. Just because it has been done for centuries doesn’t mean that it is correct. Do you believe that poligamy is accepted in Islam? Aa Gym practise poligamy, yet he is a ulama.

    The rest is upon us, whether we go through sacrifices of spending our time reading, revealing the Qur’an, or blindly follow what has been told for decades. As far as I know, none of the people mentioned in the Qur’an (Noah, Moses, Ibrahim, Jesus, Hud, etc) followed their fathers nor their decendants beliefs. I believe everybody can learn the Qur’an, with God’s permission. Because he promised that.


    Jaka said: But it surely doesn’t mean we must follow all of them and their teachings.

    So you are saying that God teaches different messengers different things?

  12. But people still have a choise to be religiuos or not to be. I’ve met one really nice girl from Azarbaidzan, i think it’s spelled like this, sorry if it’s not and i’ve asked her about the religion situation in her country and she clearly stated that you can be as religiuos as you want, you can believe and not pray or you can not believe at all, it’s your choise, i really liked her opinion and as i understood it’s pretty commom in her country,

  13. It is interesting to read your blog about certain religious matters. It seems you try to understand some delicate problems in Islam by questioning them and try to make your own judgement (or find your own interpretation) based on your knowledge. But unfortunately, I find many of your arguments based on a very limited knowledge on Islam or its history or simplified understanding of certain Arabic phrases. I’m not claiming that I’m more knowledgeable than you in this matter, but making our own interpretation when we don’t have enough ‘proofs’ to support that interpretation is just flaw.

    About the diversity in Islam, let me quote one hadits:

    Rasulullah saw bersabda:
    “Kaum (umat) Yahudi akan terpecah diantara mereka menjadi tujuh puluh satu atau tujuh puluh dua golongan, dan kaum (umat) Nasrani akan terpecah diantara mereka menjadi tujuh puluh satu atau tujuh puluh dua golongan. Dan umatku akan terpecah diantara mereka menjadi tujuh puluh tiga golongan” (diriwayatkan antara lain oleh Abu Daud, at-Tarmizi, al-Hakim, dan Ahmad )

    This diversity is made possible by the different interpretations people have on Qur’an and Hadits, because in many cases both Qur’an and hadits only give basic guides but not day to day or technical guides. For that reasons, we have great ulemas (when I say great, I’m referring to their profound knowledge on Islam, not their TV charms) who interpreted those verses in Qu’ran based on their knowledge. If for some reasons, you can’t find the jurisprudence of certain cases (for example, the latest technology might present us some new problems that Islam has not provide the answer yet, such as: is cloning a human, a haram thing?), then knowledgeable ulemas should meet to decide. If they haven’t met yet and we (the ordinary muslim) have to face the problem, then we can have our own ijtihad based on our knowledge.

    However, no matter different these groups practice their daily moslem rituals, still there are things in common. In the case of fasting during the ramadhan, it seems they all agree that fasting include not eating and not drinking. But to take fasting as simple as that is really degrading its value. Come on Parvita, I know that you’re much smarter than that.

  14. Hmmm…Emma, I’m sorry I don’t quite get your point. Majority doesn’t mean it’s correct, does it? Did you go through the whole article? Or just read parts of it? I have to admit it’s a heavy and controversial topic, especially because it is going against the grain.

    Let me share my understanding about Saum. Saum is learning and practising. Simply saying, you learn (by reading Qur’an), and you practise what has been told (pray, zakat, be kind, patient, etc). On the way, you will forget and slip (forgot about God, made mistakes such as being angry, etc). In that case, you have to “pay it back” by taubat and keep improving yourself by learn the Qur’an, practising etc. And as human, you will always have hurdles, forget, slip, sin. But as long as you do saum, you will be alright. So, Saum is not simply just not eating and drinking or restrain yourself, it’s about learning and practising, which needs patience, which should be practised everyday.

    This puts fasting for a month just a ritual of togetherness between the moslems. While saum goes far more than fasting. Saum is for everybody, rich, poor, healthy, those with diabetes, kidney problems, AIDS, etc.

    The Busy Brain just thinking: Have you heard about “If you cannot fast, then you should feed poor people as much as the days you didn’t fast with the exact food that you eat”?. One of the hadits. Logically, which one is better: starving ourselves for a month or feeding an orphan for a month?

    Maybe you find different understanding of Saum that you read yourself from the Qur’an? I most appreciate it if you have some other sighting from what you learned, because, arent’s we all learning? Mind you, I’m not a hadits believer nor an ulama fan. I read and listen to them but very cautious and always refer it back to the Qur’an. Cheers and thanks for your comment.

  15. Salaam
    Why did prophets Saum before prophet muhammad saw?
    Well saum has been there since the beginning just like salaat. All prophets of all times were either doing saum and doing salaat. This means islam has been around since the beginning also. When the Quran was revealedvof course Allah included it was at a time of when people were not sticking to what Allah had ordained for them in the previous messages. The saum in the Quran is the saum we should be doing in Ramadan as Allah has ordered us to do. The saum the previous prophets did were inshallah ordered upon them at their time. in the ummah of muhammad saw it is ordered in Ramadan and is a pillar of Islam. Allah knows best. Salaam.

  16. Read surah baqarah in Quran and you will find the Quran talks about fasting saum and how it is ordered tobyhose prophets before muhammad saw tovteach restraint and sabbar

    It is not only about no food or liquid
    It is about not committing sins
    In Islam the day starts from just befor fajr and end of day is sunset
    That is why when we saum we saum the whole day
    From before fajr to sunset or maghrib is the whole day

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