Malaysia Truly Pathetic: From Rasa Sayange and Others
Malaysia has been obnoxious for many things. Being such a painful neighbour. The hottest issue is on the use of the Indonesian Folk Song “Rasa Sayange” in their tourism campaign. Videos of the campaign can be seen in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ki3C_5jM-4.
This is what the Malaysian Tourism Minister, Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor said (theStar, 3 October 2007), whic shows that he has skipped geography class when he was younger:
“I don’t understand. I have already explained to the Jakarta Post that Rasa Sayang is a folk song for Kepulauan Nusantara (Malay archipelago). So, Indonesia cannot claim that the song is theirs,” he said when contacted yesterday.
The defense, such as ,”The song has been sang for long time in Malaysia”, I find it funny. Lets face it. Most Malaysians likes Indonesian music. Their music sucks. They like our bands more, such as Sheila on 7, Dewa, Ungu, Slank, Titi DJ, KD, and the list goes on. The only Malaysian singer popular in Indonesia, is Siti Nurhaliza, whose songs won’t be popular if she didn’t have a cute face, and the former Sheila Majid (she is the only good one, so far) and the ‘mutton dressed up as lamb’ Anita Sarawak. And the old time P. Ramlee (he is originally an Acehnese!). They even watch our crappy sinetrons and enjoy them.
Here is the reality. Lets look at the map. Point where the Wallacea line is. Wallacea line separates the difference between the flora and fauna of the western Indonesia (the Sunda Land, consist of Java, Sumatra, Borneo, which then includes the Malay Peninsula) and the eastern Indonesia (Komodo, Flores, Maluku, Papua, Aru). Maluku, is closer to the Australian side than the Sundaland. Geologically, geographically, Maluku is nowhere in the same “Rumpun” as the Malaysian tells Indonesians. Maluku has no way sharing any culture with Malay. Much of Malay culture is similar to those of Sumatran culture, such as the Padang, Melayu Deli cultures. What is Malaysian culture? What Malaysia has, Indonesia has.
But this is Malaysia. Our obnoxious neighbour. They need to show that Malaysia has multicultural, where in fact, there are only 3 cultures there: Chinese, Malay and Indian. Compare to Indonesia, which has more over 500 cultures and subcultures spreading along Aceh to Papua, not counting Indian, Arab, Chinese culture. I do feel sorry for them, NOT! They have little much culture. While we have long story of history and landmarks, they have to create the Petronas Building as their state landmark. Malaysians are trying really hard to make a culture. Such as Batik (proudly can say Indonesian batiks are more exotic then theirs), the musical instrument Angklung, which is from West Java (those who claim Angklung is Malaysia, speak Sundanese, please!).
At one point in our history, Indonesia during Sukarno time, yelled “Ganyang Malaysia”. They have probably been obnoxious since that time then 
but here is a list of what I can recall:
- Claimed Pulau Bintan as theirs (Indonesia being stupid, Malaysian being slick)
- Making a fuss over the Ambalat area, and problems in the Indonesia-Malaysia borderline in Borneo
- Sending terrorist like Dr. Azhari and Nurdin M. Top to Indonesia
- Indonesian karate coach beaten by Malaysian police http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/08/29/asia/AS-GEN-Malaysia-Indonesia-Police-Brutality.php
- Muslianah Nurdin, the Indonesian diplomat’s wife, being detained by mistaking her as an illegal immigrant http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/10/09/asia/AS-GEN-Malaysia-Indonesia-Mistaken-Identity.php
- Calling an Indonesian Blogger, Nila Tanzil, a liar, called Indonesian female bloggers has nothing better to do http://nilatanzil.blogspot.com/2007/10/from-rasa-sayange-to-detention-of.html
- Claiming Wayang, Angklung and Batik is Malaysian (kasihaaan….)
- Using Molucca (i.e. Indonesian) folk song for their tourism campaign
And the most funniest thing I saw during the Idul Fitri: Malaysian PM and ambassadors on TV, saying “Minal Aidin Wal Faidzin”. Yeah, sorry ain’t good enough.
What Indonesia did for Malaysia: we sent smoke from the burning trees to them.
It’s not only about a song. It’s about Indonesia’s existency. It’s about Indonesian pride. Indonesia better do something about it. If we cannot keep a song, then don’t expect that we can keep our territory. I think Indonesians have had it about Malaysia now. Ask anybody here. We don’t like them much.
And check this blog written by a Malaysian: http://theunspunblog.com/2007/10/02/rasa-not-so-sayang/, pretty spot on.
October 25, 2007 at 1:32 pm
What Indonesia did for Malaysia: we sent smoke from the burning trees to them.
Yes we did send Malaysia our smoke from our forest … but, do you know that our forest diminished by malaysian illegal logging? Indonesia once protest to Arab Emirates Union to reject furniture from Malaysia because those were made of Indonesian wood from illegal logging. ( find it from detik.com)
How about that ?
October 26, 2007 at 8:07 am
jika kalian ingin tahu, indo cuma ada satu saja file lagu mp3 rasa sayange. padahal di malaysia saja terdapat berpuluh-puluh versi rasa sayang berlainan. Mampukah 1 rasa sayange ni melawan berpuluh2 rasa sayang?
kunjungi situs
http://arezeo.blogspot.com/2007/10/10-rasa-sayang-vs-1-rasa-sayange.html
dan sampaikan komentar anda.
October 26, 2007 at 4:21 pm
Such a shallow argument. Just because Malaysia produced lots of versions of the song doesn’t mean that it is originally from Malaysia. If you like the song, you can sing it. But if you want to use it for your tourism propaganda, you can politely ask permission.
Just a suggestion: why not use “Cindai” (sung by Siti Nurhaliza) as your tourism theme song? “Cindai” is so Truly Malaysia, in my opinion. Simple, catchy, fun and rather thick.
October 30, 2007 at 8:15 pm
several months ago when got here in OZ, i went to a museum. there was an exhibition about kebaya. guess what fellas, it was stated there that kebaya is claimed malaysian traditional costume! my heart was really torn and i was like going to burn the exhibition materials they’ve got there. well hello, kebaya is soooo indonesian traditional costume!!! we have it, complete in its every pretty variation. (what they’ve got there admitted as “malaysian costume” is luckily only pieces of s***, not-pretty at all type of kebaya)
now, there are even more news about malaysia stealing from indonesia. gosh, that nation is just a stupid plagiarist with empty head resulting zero creativity. they should be ashamed of themselves. after kebaya, batik, songs (rasa sayange, jali-jali), congklak, gamelan, (angklung might be next) then what else? malaysia sucks! i’ve proved this. i’ve been to KL. wow, they’re really out of our league. indonesian civilisation is way more advance.
we indonesian must really be careful. whereever we are, please try to introduce our beloved indonesian culture to everyone-our indonesian youngsters (as the future of our nation) and specially to non-indonesian. tell them what we’ve got and how proud we are of having it.
one more thing, besides the stealing, malaysian awful treatment to indonesian people (our respected diplomat’s wife and karate coach), should properly be settled bylaw (or give them a revenge or two, that would be nice :p).
malaysia is a serious potential copycat threatening indonesia. if we-indonesian aren’t careful enough, they will eventually claim everything as their, including our land.
btw, if any of you been to menteng area and saw an abandoned building with a sign saying “wilayah ini milik kerajaan malaysia” (or something similar to it as i don’t exactly remember) could you check what it actually is? because it’s unfair for jakarta people having a piece of our land “imperialised” by malaysia. and as my best knowledge, that place isn’t even that stupid country’s embassy. is it possible malaysia uses that place for somekind of espionage activity location?
so indonesians don’t get mad, get even. let’s get the malaysian part of borneo back, shall we? i highly agree with bung karno’s statement : “ganyang malaysia”!!!
November 6, 2007 at 5:50 am
komentar si zakrul dari Malaysia emang shallow banget. begini aja deh, lagunya Melly Goeslaw “Pecinta Wanita” yang dinyanyiin Irwansyah itu ada banyak banget versinya di Malaysia (karena orang Malay demen lagu2 sampah) tapi di Indonesia mungkin cuma ada sedikit versi, tapi tetep aja semua orang tau itu ciptaan Melly.
BTW, bener banget Malaysia perlu dikasih pelajaran. Menurut gw sih perlu juga blog kamu ini disebarluaskan ke situs2 dan forum2 berbahasa Inggris, biar dunia luar tahu betapa brengseknya Malaysia.
November 7, 2007 at 5:51 pm
i don’t want to add fuel to the fire, but have you heard that jali-jali apparently comes from langkawi nowadays? hahhahahakahkakk!
to me this whole dispute about who steals what and why is getting overrated. why don’t we, as indonesians who love our many cultures so much, start banging those government officials’ heads against the wall so they might come up with a solution and actually stand up for our country? i get a sneaking suspicion that the government is somewhat afraid to take measures against this whole thing.
or maybe it’s time to change the president? but who?
November 18, 2007 at 5:16 pm
i’ll find that all this stuff is such childish. ya wanna know why..
coz we, the malay, may derived from indonesian. heck, my roots are from indonesia. but, this feud is just rubbish. yea, we like all that crappy stuff you guys sents, but we have our own intrigity. you think we have only 3 races. well say HELLO to my friend from borneo.
then there the immigrants from our neighbouring country, indonesia. while they work for us, they also threatens the safety of our society. then when our ns forces do something bad…. there come the human right stuff
wanna more, malaysians are the FIRST to sent humanitarian help to the tsunami victims.
yea, we plagirate this and that but that show you a hypocyte…
next time THINK BEFORE WROTE SOMETHING THIS HUMILATING.
and one more thing…..
AKU TAK MINAT PUN CITE SAMPAH NGAN LAGU NTAH PAPE TU!!!!!!
November 19, 2007 at 6:34 am
hierof forgot the Petronas Building was most likely built by the so called immigrants from their neighbouring country. And obviously have to learn to write in proper English before writing something humiliating himself
November 19, 2007 at 5:43 pm
Thanx hierof…
well…Indonesians…please….look at your own pathetic country before saying bad things to MY BELOVED COUNTRY….
u guys are so-not-thankful to the Malaysia’s government which had helped your country a lot…
Without us, guess what your country will be?
think of it on your own….
do you know why a lot of your citizens immigrate to Malaysia?
because your country is no longer safe for them…
there have been several bomb attack that kill your own people…
how can they feel safe living there?
yes, there were two Malaysians involved in the bomb attack, but we didn’t sent them…your people invited them! they bring them in, blind their minds and make them a terrorist! You want to know why? Because they – including you guys as Indonesians – want to kill our people…Malaysians…and tried to spoil Malaysia in the eyes of the world nation!
also,there are a lot of cases which involved the Indonesians in Malaysia. they robbed the bank, they become the snatch thieves, they break in houses…they kill our people…they bring in those drugs…
and those who have been maids in Malaysia, stole their majikan’s stuffs…kill their children – our future leader!
what the hell with that??
well…i guess you guys are just jealous with Malaysia because we are lots-of-step forwards than you guys….admit it!
you said that the Indonesians don’t like Malaysians much?
well, do you think we like you?
November 19, 2007 at 7:11 pm
hi everyone. I am Malaysian who loves Indonesia. Everything about them except their music cos I don’t like the bands or kris dayanti’s ballad songs. My very bestfriend is Indonesian. In fact, I travel to Indonesia every year. Bali, Yogja, Jakarta, Bandung, Medan..
Reading this entry, well, I don’t feel angry or anything. Because yeah, it is sad that my fellow Malaysian loves your music and your crappy sinetrons. And yes, Indonesian artist are far more successful here than our own local bands. Not that we are no good, but our media gives more attention to your bands. As for me, music is music. I do wish that our local people support more local music than your Indonesian bands.
It doesn’t matter how many Rasa Sayang versions we made or the fact that there’s only one version from your country. Everyone loves the song. Every kid under 6 years old in Malaysia love and know the the song by heart. And I know for a fact that your people loves the song as much as we do. I was walking in Pasar Baru in Bandung the other day, and I heard this little girl who is about 4 years old singing the song. I sat next to her and sang along. When we are done, everyone clapped. The mother hugged me and I feel the connection.
P.Ramlee was born in Penang. Yes the father came from Aceh. But the lagend himself was born and bred in Penang. All of us know who he was. He is a legend to us. While only a handful Indonesian recognized him. But yes, he has the Indonesian blood.
There are hundreds of thousands Indonesian here, maybe close to a million. We accepted them. Because we came from the same “rumpun”. I look at my bestfriend, and I don’t see her as Indonesian or Malaysian or Singaporean. I see her as someone who has the biggest heart I ever known.
If you are talking about Indonesia’s pride, I respect that.
As for me, I would ask all of us to concentrate on the good things, the positive side of us being neighbours and the fact that we came from the same ‘akar’ ‘rumpun’ and what not. We talk in similar language, we eat rice everyday, we even look similar to one another. The connection will always be there.
You can go on and on how much you hate us or argued the fact that the song came from your country. But if both countries clash, both side won’t win anything, in fact, we are going to lose more than we can ever imagine.
And if you think that you have more culture than us, good for you!
To I Love Indonesia,
Malaysian loves the Kebaya but I must admit our Kebaya is not as beautiful as yours. Indonesian is so creative, their Kebaya is so beautiful. And when I went to your country, and I wear my Kebaya, the Indonesian recognized me instantly and they came over and asked me about Malaysia. There, I feel the connection.
And yes, Kebaya and Baju Kurung are our national costumes and in my opinion, we are proud of that. And to know that Kebaya is also Indonesian costume is so cool because no other country in the world wears Kebaya.
November 19, 2007 at 11:23 pm
For Malaysian, The criminals happen in Malaysia that involved Indonesian are individual criminals. Even, I heard locals people pretend as Indonesian when they do criminal. BUT, Malaysia have stolen Indonesian heritages officially. That was done by your government. Oh ..I just now realized Malaysia Government have bad intention to Indonesia, including spy activity….. And It’s people do not know about this.. very sad, I have many good Malaysian friends, but …As a nation so sad nation.
November 20, 2007 at 8:43 am
@Dahlia: sweet post, thank you. Lots of Indonesians are upset with your country due to what has been done to our people by your government with no respect and at the end, claiming our song as yours. There is a wound between Indonesia and Malaysia and I’m afraid the way Indonesians see Malaysians would be different now. It is sad, but that’s the fact. Only time will heal the wound and hopefully it won’t be a long time. Cheers.
November 20, 2007 at 4:09 pm
To Malaysians and Indonesians,
Why do you hate each other? If there wasn’t anything being stolen/taken away from A to B or B to A, would you all still hate each other?
YOu wanna talk history? Back in the time of Kerajaan Majapahit all-mighty 650-or-so years of kingdom, the then-now Malaysia was once part of the Great Nusantara all the way to Thailand. With time changes, Indonesia is now as it is as is Malaysia, but because of the “togetherness in diversity” motto that run through all of our heritage blood may you bee Malay or Indo, you will see familiarities in Indo in Malay.
We see through our times after the great kingdom of Majapahit that the mighty territory has been reduced each century. The now Timor Leste was once part of NKRI. The island near Malay territory now becomes theirs. The cloth, the song, the food – all consisting of the definition of what a country culture is – has been switch hands. The fear of loosing more of “what is Indonesia” is in all of Indonesian’s mind may that be Indos in another country and living IN Indonesia. Do Malaysian notice this?
In all, the concept of “my stuff ain’t your stuff don’t touch it don’t use it” motto will destroy itself. Not the people but the culture will destroy itself. How? What is a culture to remember when it only brings pain and suffereing? Nor Malay nor Indo will have it all. Only zero in the end.
When you use a Nokia phone do you claim as yours? Yes of course you use it. Do you claim you produce it? Of course not unless you are the co-founder of Nokia engineering and the like. Do you agree where Nokia comes from? Most people do. But I remember how the first Nokia phone was out in the market that most people thought Nokia was from Japan. Indonesian’s culture are not very well known to the outside, but once knowing the history of originating (f#@# my spelling) the culture itself will get credits.
Malaysia has their own culture. Indonesia has their own culture. Very familiars than differences, yes? Ask any non-Chinese people to differentiate between Vietnamese, Chinese mainland, TAIWANESE (Taiwanese don’t like to be called Chinese! i know my friend does), Korean, Japan. In fact many borrowed from China and histories wrote it Japan copy it, then goes Chinese going all the way south while in the journey in between comes Laos, Vietnamese, Cambodia, etc. Does everyone call themselves Chinese? No of course not. But everyone knows where all were from, true!
So in time history will reveals us all unless within a short period of time each country destroys each other then there won’t be anymore culture to remember don’t you think?
The world is full of hate, it’s incredible (negative) how upbeat it is for many to maintain a negative culture of hate than to love and tolerate. Why did Jesus/Buddha/Nabi Muhammad and all these Holy Books/Bibles were here to teach us for?
Be In Peace
In the end nothing will become yours it all comes back to ME – God
November 20, 2007 at 5:07 pm
‘rasa sayang’ is indonesian as well as malaysian,no doubt about it.y? because we came frm the same grassRoots,and we created/shared the same folklores indeed.
same goes for kebaya,batik,.. we in malaysia have the malaysian style, and indonesian have their own style.. u indons can say Ganyang Malaysia.. we malaysian can say ‘Blasah Indonesia’… my point is we should put our differences aside and be good neighbours despite wht our govts r doing between themselves.
and because of ur govt sensational’ized the Rasa Sayang issue(thankfully u did!),we now r thinking twice about ur music invasion in msia..at least, its an eye- opener to all Msian media to stop accomodating u guys until u guys start to accomodate us..win win? sure bet…it’s a blessing in disguise!
and yeah .malaysian music is getting better day by day…let it be 10yrs,100yrs… only time will tell..
aman damai,
loQue.
November 22, 2007 at 3:15 pm
i ask my mother and she said that wayang,angklung,rasa sayang is from indonesia…-batik also…-but batik in indonesia use hand to draw the flower and design..-in malaysia we use somekind of technique called ‘terap’
we are neighbour..-ofcoz we have somekind of simliarity…
November 23, 2007 at 8:09 am
@sta treq (did you mean startrek?): As far as I know, Malaysian culture is close to our Sumatran culture. I don’t recall Padang, Aceh, Tapanuli, nor Palembang and Lampung do batik. There are different batiks from Pekalongan, Cirebon, Solo, Yogya, all from Java. Is it fair to say Malaysia mencontoh (copying) batik? Inspired by batik is ne thing, claiming that it is yours is another thing.
Yes, we are neighbours, we have similarities, sometimes annoying neighbours take things from your yard without notice, too.
And now it is Reog Ponorogo!
November 23, 2007 at 1:20 pm
But Indonesia also will build Menara Jakarta which will be the second highest tower after the completion. So, not only Malaysia with its Petronas.
November 23, 2007 at 1:49 pm
It is said that in Yunnan China, the minority people there also wear batik. As in many textbook said, Yunnan is believed the original place of proto-melayu.
You can find in:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_Malaysia#Yunnan_migration_theory
and
http://www.bbmenterprises.com/batik.htm
November 27, 2007 at 8:43 pm
guys! its just a song!! they wont be able to “steal” that friggin song if our government give a damn at first place… which the’re not!!!
for indonesians… stop whining and start barking at the government. save our heritages! and to my malaysian brothers… please stop stealing. its just not cool guys.
we’re serumpun guys! hello!!!? i’m acehnese and i do know your language. and i can speak bahasa melayu with flawless accent. and the last time i check there are no word “nona” in your language. so please admit it and stop being a jerk.
and no… unlike most of my countrymen here i dont hate you guys, i got tons of relatives at johor and kuching. but you guys just being a jerk right now. and everybody has no love to jerks right?
ps: i do deeply sorry about our crappy bands and cheap pathetic sinetron.
December 10, 2007 at 3:23 am
sepertinya malaysia sudah tidak memiliki budaya asli mereka sendiri sehingga terpaksa harus mengambil budaya dari para pendatang…
dan birokrat indonesia memang nyaris tidak berguna dalam hal2 seperti ini…
keduanya menyedihkan…
December 13, 2007 at 11:58 am
Can somebody wite a song called” TRULY ASSHOLE” ?
December 13, 2007 at 12:06 pm
I missed the Soekarno’S era too….
with the slogan ” GANYANG M——- !!!
December 19, 2007 at 3:43 pm
Kan orang malaysia, kalau nyanyi dudul dudul…
Semua temanya sama… sedih mulu…. ga ada kreativenya…
Oleh, karena itu, mereka suka sama lagu indonesia…
E, karena sukanya berlebihan…
NYONTEK DEH!!!!!
December 19, 2007 at 10:38 pm
i see bunch of stupid people.
i see stupid people fight for stupid reason.
i wonder.why are they so stupid dumb dumb.
March 25, 2008 at 5:26 pm
sebab lagu pun gaduh..
Dumb..
kalu xska org malaysia dgar lagu korang xpayah la artis2 korang cari pasaran kat sini..bersyukur la org malaysia bgi korang punca pendapatan.
Kalau xpuas hati lagi bawak balik sumer warga INDON kat malaysia ni..
Xpuas hati nga mlaysia tp datang cari makan kat sini jugak..
datang haram lak tu..buat semak malaysia jer..kacau org tempatan pulak tu..Ada Malaysia berkira benda Ni???Isu mana lg Besar??Sendiri mau ingat la..peace malaysia..love malaysia..
March 26, 2008 at 11:54 pm
huh…..pasal batik dan kebaya pun nk berkira?? identiti sangatlah?
apa yang ada pada semua tu kalau akhlak tak mencerminkan yang baik-baik?
March 27, 2008 at 1:56 am
Indonesia people is very good and polite in my area in Malaysia. I love to hang around with Indonesians. We always talk about Islam. We don’t talk about songs. Only “Tombo Hati”, very nice song. We are bond with aqidah, not songs…
April 1, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Ehem….
Saya hendak mencelah sikit ya. Apa la gaduh2 ni. Relax and chill brothers and sisters. Tak kemana pun kalau kita asyik gaduh2 ni. For me, I love my country and I love Indonesia. I think Indonesia can be a great country if the resources are being used correctly. I almost got married to an Indonesian too. Anyhoos, Malaysians, Indonesians, Singaporeans, Bruneians…we came from the same blood. Hence, it’s a bout time we learn to respect each other, love each other and be nice to each other. We can argue until the cows comes home if we want but where would such arguments leads us to? Hatred? Lies? Come on bros and sistas, wake up and smell the coffee. Start living….The real devil is laughing if we continue to bickering each other.
May 26, 2008 at 11:00 am
I’m a Malay Riau who had many relatives in both S’pore, Melaka and N.Johor
I describe myself as An Indonesian..(and I’m truly proud of that)
but yes…I’m also considering myself a Malaysian (since I used to live in both places many a times)
My datuk (kakek) always says..”there was no border between both sides (Sumatra/Indonesia -and- Semenanjung/Malaysia) in the old times”, that is why our family are on both PLACES…
the point is: I really DONT WANT US to fight for each other
There’ll always be a better way to settle this stuffs down I guess
To Mbak Parvita..
Jambi and Riau has its own batik kok…but different styles and colors..
if you happen to go to Pekanbaru or Jambi you’d find it easily in Pasar or toko cenderamata around the town.
August 28, 2008 at 2:04 am
so… let me get this argument straight…
indonesia is saying that the song ‘rasa sayang’ is them, and they want it back? and to rub it more on malaysia’s face, they r also saying that most malaysian cultures are theirs, malaysia burns their forest, malaysia has a really sad music industry, and i think the list goes on..
i think something is not right here.. if indonesia is claiming most malaysian’s cultures are theirs, its like telling your bro that your dad is yours not his… its like UK claiming that english is theirs and australian or american cant have it.. face it guys… we are from the same grassRoot, rumpun, wtv it is called.. is it such a big surprise that we have d same culture ?? is it such a big surprise to see ur brother has the same hair color as urs ?? .. even if u guys manage to claim it all from us… what is there to gain ?? satisfaction ?? pride ??i guess so… maybe you guys would be so damn happy to strip malaysia out of their identity… to let the world know that this country has nothing to offer but in fact they are ‘culture thieve’..
yea.. dat wud be it… dats probably one of ur ‘goals’.. ganyang malaysia…
isnt that what this whole argument is based on ??
look i respect indonesia in sooo many ways.. and i love my beloved country ‘malaysia’.. but reading this argument/blog/forum/comments is such a pain… u guys have gotta stop attacking each other with these.. pointless.. issues..
this is what i think.. i might be wrong.. so correct me…
we all know the story about parameswara.. so technically we are ‘you’.. and the culture is ‘yours’.. but still u claimed its just ‘yours’ and we cant have it since our tourism minister said it is ‘ours’… now.. im actually quite embarass if dat guy didnt ask indonesia for permission to use the song.. and i am sorry about that.. its wrong.. but then again.. even if he did ask for permission.. would you guys give it to him ? if he asks to share the song.. would u guys share it ??
wow it is quite offensive for u to say our music industry sux.. jes because u never heard anything from malaysia except from siti nurhaliza and p.ramlee doesnt give u the absolute right to say we sux.. our artists already made their debut oversea.. they got contract oversea.. ‘Too phat’ has a contract with US artist.. ‘Hujan’ had a tour in UK.. (im sorry i mentioned young groups but well that is what im interested in)and now how could they suck ?? I know ur artist had done better.. u guys hv talented musicians.. well known across the world.. especially that pianist.. i forgot his name sorry.. so indonesia and malaysia both have well known artists.. so that doesnt really give u ( d narrow minded pathetic jenglot who started this topic) to say malaysian music industry sucks.. yes we do hv some minor issues in malaysia regarding our music industry but really that is none of your business..
one more thing.. u know why u dont know many of our artists ??? ASK YOUR GOVERMENT..
in entertainment industry.. we have a lot to learn from you guys.. i admit.. ur entertainment is better than ours (*sigh if u really wana compare.. and wana hear a malaysian to say it)
instead of mumbling about trying to save indonesian culture.. why dont u save your country ?? you guys have more things to worry about besides ’saving a song’..
i duna wana talk more about things that had already happened… we should look for a resolution here.. what can we do to make peace between us… tell me when u guys decided to open ur mind.. and together we work for something better… this is really going nowhere.. if war is wat u want ?? then i guess Sukarno is still alive..
this is really such a waste of time.. i am sorry if i offended anyone… i have a lot of indonesians frens as well.. i like them as much as they like me but when i saw this i just felt really sad to know that this is what their countrymen think about us… i hope they wont read this blog.. and i hope they are not like you..
August 28, 2008 at 2:41 am
one more thing… ur saying p.ramlee is achehnese ??
so u r kind of admit that he is somehow talented.. so dats y u HAVE TO SAY that he is an achehnese heritage.. in which u r saying that he is partly indonesian.. so.. since he is an achehnese heritage.. is it wrong for him to commit to achehnese culture ?? is it wrong for him to sing ‘rasa sayang’ ?? is it wrong for his wife and daughters to wear ‘baju kebaya’ ?? is it wrong for him to even say that this is his culture as well ??
and he is not the only one who is from an achehnese heritage..
October 1, 2008 at 3:41 pm
just refer to world encyclopedia or wikipedia, whatever it’s name, it will be shown who owns batik – wayang kulit, etc, the origin of the name, everything you need to know, you can not fool the history. so my fellow indonesian, just be calm down..
the world knows they are ours..
October 10, 2008 at 3:47 pm
As a native javanese, the claim of batik by malaysian government is a huge insult that really really pisses me off. batik is ours !!! not malayan, not chinese, or indians… it belongs to JAVANESE.
if you all refer to wikipedia, batik is referred to JAVANESE words.
I proud to tell you all that JAVANESE has a history much much older than malayan. WE ARE NOT MALAYAN. we didn`t even speak the same language as you !!! do you malaysians know what is the meaning of JANCOK ??? or TAEEKK?? or KIRRIIIIKK ??? I bet you dont.
JAVANESE ARE NOT MALAYAN !!!!
October 10, 2008 at 3:50 pm
O YEAH.. F Y I … IT WAS MALAYSIAN DR AZAHARI WHO MASTERMINDED BOMB ATTACKS IN BALI AND SEVERAL OTHER PLACES IN INDONESIA.
DR AZAHARI AND NOORDIN M TOP ARE MALAYSIANS WHO BOMBARDED INDONESIA.
November 30, 2008 at 11:20 pm
ITS OK TO SHARE A COMMON HERITAGE MY DEAR MALAYSIANS, BUT CLAIMING OUR COMMON HERITAGE AS YOURS ALONE IS ANOTHER DIFFERENT THING…., TRY TO HAVE SOME RESPECT, I KNOW YOU LOOK AT US AS POOR PEOPLE, BUT REMEMBER IF IT WASNT FOR US (SUMATRA) ALL OF YOUR PEOPLE WOULD HAVE BEEN DEAD BECAUSE OF THE TSUNAMI, NOT THAT WE DO NOT APPRECIATE YOUR HELP, BUT BY SAYING THOSE THINGS, ITS AS IF YOU ARE NOT SINCERE IN GIVING YOUR AID……., LOOK I KNOW YOU ARE RICH, I KNOW YOU ARE SMART, BUT WE ARE GOING TO BE NEIGHBOURS UNTIL THE NEXT ICE AGE, SO PLEASE… , DONT DO THAT TO YOUR FELLOW NEIGHBOURS,.
WITH REGARDS TO THE FACT THAT MANY OF US COMING HERE ILLEGALLY AND COMMIT CRIME IN YOUR COUNTRIES, SURE THAT IS CORRECT, THERE IS ALOT OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS COMING TO YOUR COUNTRY FROM OURS, BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR COUNTRYMEN HAVE ALSO DEVELOPED AN INTERDEPENDENCIES WITH THIS IMMIGRANTS ALBEIT THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY, REMEMBER WHAT HAPPEN IN NUNUKAN?, WHEN YOU DEPORTED ALL OF THEM, THERE IS CHAOS IN YOUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, EVEN IMMIGRANTS ILLEGAL OR NOT COMING FROM BANGLADESH, PAKISTAN, PHILLIPINES CANNOT COVER THESE DEFICIENCIES, SO PLEASE GET REAL!
REGARDING CRIME, MAYBE MAJORITY OF THE PERPETRATORS ARE INDONESIANS, BUT YOU CANNOT JUST STEREOTYPE ALL OF INDONESIANS LIKE THAT, WE ARE 220 MILLION PEOPLE, WHO ARE YOU TO CONCLUDE THAT ALL OF THOSE CRIMINALS, MANY OF THOSE ARE FAR RICHER THAN YOUR COUNTRYMEN…., SO PLEASE LOOK YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR BEFORE YOU SAY SOMETHING BAD LIKE THAT…
CHEERS MATE…..
December 12, 2008 at 10:05 am
Truly malaysia adalah projek pencarian jati diri yang sebetulnya tidak percaya diri dengan budaya melayu yang mereka punya.hingga akhirnya mencari-cari budaya budaya nusantara dalam hal ini budaya indonesia, yang mereka pikir satu rumpun. kita TIDAK satu rumpun!!!..malaysia boleh klaim budaya melayu yang sama seperti kebudayaan melayu di indonesia semisal budaya riau atau lainnya yang mirip dengan budaya malaysia, karena punya akar yang sama. tapi tidak untuk budaya indonesia lainnya..kita berbeda!!! BEZA PAKCIK!!!!sorry,,, BEDA!!!
March 9, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Malaysia has only 3 cultures? So what am I?
I think if you want to do a thorough argument you should at least get your facts right. Expecting Malaysians to understand Indonesia when you yourself have got the basic information about Malaysia wrong.
Just because there is a spiff over the whole Rasa Sayange/Barongan/Batik issue, doesn’t mean that Malaysia steals everything from Indonesia. Now that’s just called exaggerating.
We do have fragments of Indonesia (and pre-Indonesia) here, that we cannot avoid. Yet to say that we do not give credit to Indonesia is laughable. You can see it in the names Mee Jawa, Kampung Jawa and Lebuh Java. We know where the Bugis, Minangkabaus and Javanese in Malaysia come from. And by the way, being a music student our music appreciation textbooks ACTUALLY state the correct origins of Gamelan, Angklung, Caklempong and the like – which is Indonesia of course, or rather the land it stands on. The textbooks are prepared and approved by the Malaysian Education Department.
I do not of course, claim Rasa Sayange, batik or barongan as Malaysian. However I think the Indonesians have often been a bit too aggressive when it comes to things concerning these two countries. I wonder if that’s how the temperament is there naturally. You even have Indonesians going so far as bastardising the Malaysian Tourism Logo and putting ‘Visit Malingsia’ instead. I call them emotional juggernauts – hot-headed freaks that make mountains of ant hills.
And since you address the issue of Dr. Azahari and Noordin M. Top, allow me to answer you.
Yes, Dr. Azahari and Noordin M. Top are Malaysians, and yes they were the masterminds of the Bali bombings. But here’s the catch:
Which organisation were they under? Jemaah Islamiyah from Indonesia. And here’s a brief history of JI from Wikipedia:
JI was formally founded on 1 January 1993 by JI leaders, Abu Bakar Bashir and Abdullah Sungkar while hiding in Malaysia from the persecution of the Suharto Government.
If you ask me, the two Malaysian terrorists wouldn’t have executed their plans properly without the co-operation of their Indonesian counterparts, am I right? Are these two sufficient enough to brainwash the Bali bombers? Are the ideologies of JI and these two Malaysians any different?
Yet when I post this to discussion forums most of the Indonesian forummers get very upset, or are virtually unresponsive. They love slapping facts into Malaysians, yet they can’t tolerate it when Malaysians do it to them.
Face it. Indonesia is not so holy and any less OBNOXIOUS as its people would like to think it is. Same with Malaysia. Pot and kettle basically. Now you might want to focus on your tourism industry and see how it can do better. I’m sure Indonesia has much more to offer than just the usual fare of Bali, Surabaya, Jogjakarta and Jakarta. This by the way is also the lamentation of an Indonesian friend of mine.
May 8, 2009 at 3:42 am
Indonesia and Malaysia both has negative side, attacking each other on purpose will not solve any issue.
But claiming world wide, rasa sayange is from malaysia is not something by accident. You purposely claim it. You have to admit it’s wrong. Simple as that.
No matter what the argument was on this topic, rasa sayange is originated from indonesia. Tracking down to the past where non malaysia does not exist yet, does not solve any issue. Because the present, malaysia and indonesia are both different countries already. You need to draw the line.
As for the rest terrorism shit, geez man, since when terrorism can about human being ? It’s an act well above country and drive by anger, rage and hatred and such will be consider as dark organization who hide behind the country. Malaysia or Indonesia both are freak in this matter. Indonesia attack chinese in 1997 while praying to muslim god and i hate indonesians because of this. FREAK !!
There’re long negative things about indonesia as compare to malaysia. Malaysia is a more peaceful country than Indonesia in a way.
I’m not malaysian, i’m indonesian. Sometimes it’s heartache seeing how Indonesian themselves destroying their own country. But this deserve a topic on its own.
May 11, 2009 at 11:21 am
Malay and Indonesians are from the same stocks,… so same songs and cultures lah…
July 24, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Why does NOORDIN M TOP blow many bomb in indonesia, not in his own country instead? If malaysian wants to talk about criminal acts that indonesian do, please explain to us what do you think about your own citizen who is a terrible TERRORIST, disturbs our country, and brainwashes our young generation to be a suicide bomber,while malaysian authorities doesn’t do anything?? Go ahead, defend your fellow malaysian brother (noordin m top) by giving us some reasonable excuse for what he did in my beloved country for the last 10 years.
August 21, 2009 at 4:06 am
even we are in same “rumpun” it’s not mean malaysia can take indonesia culture as their whatever and whenever they want. although we are in one “indonesia” with many island and culture we always admit and respect each other culture and we never steal any culture from u. sigh,,, i wonder if malaysian people is lack with creativity? -_-
August 25, 2009 at 12:59 am
[...] even though we were taught to help and share with our neighbors, I don’t think sharing national treasures and a country’s territory is one of them. Innit that correct [...]
September 5, 2009 at 8:21 pm
yeah.. Malaysian Sucks …. i would like to say kill them (ALL OF THEM) is Halal, they are rubbish and should not in this world and must be in “BIN”
September 25, 2009 at 4:12 pm
we got Noordin M top busted at his hide out in Solo. First shoot at his head couldnt kill him! BECAUSE HE HAS NO BRAIN. so D88 got his heart shoot and he died. it’s a joke
well, chill out all
I dont mind with culture claiming, claiming something which is not belong to you is JUST stupidity or crime. for instance, using bali dancers as malaysian tourism promotion is truly stupidity, dont malaysia tourism minister “tun whoever” know that he’s confusing his country, betrying national identity and LYING TO MALAYSIANS YOUTH? this what i call pitty, or maybe this kinda identity thing is not so important to malaysians
Dear fellow malaysian, indo got koteka as well, are you DARE to claim it? How long is yours? can you hit the end? (bisa mentog gak?)
I sing peterpan song .. but i aint Ariel anyway .. i just like the song
October 27, 2009 at 3:53 pm
@malaysian: I wonder with you, why are you so sure that without malaysia, Indonesia couldn’t do anything. what do you think malaysian contribution to Indonesia’s already so big?, I think and I can assure you 100%, the contribution of malaysian in Indonesia will not be bigger than Indonesian contributions to development in malaysia, I wonder why Malaysian people like you, always thought has made a major contribution to Indonesia, please think again wisely …