Islam, Facebook, Cellphones and Perverts
Let us burn in hell with our Blackberries
Another news from the Islamic clerks in Indonesia, MUI (Majelis Ulama Indonesia). This is how backwards some people can be. This is from yesterday’s The Jakarta Post.
NU spokesman Abdul Muid Shohib said communication using mobile phones was prone to adultery, especially between sexes. “Communicating through mobile phones could lead to extra marital affairs”, Abdul told Jakarta Post through his mobile”.
Before that, the ulamas also were considering about banning (or letting out the so-called fatwa) on cyber-social network such as Facebook and Friendster. Abdul said, “We have banned social networking such as Facebook, Friendster and others because they are not used spread Islamic teachings, but gossiping”. He also mentioned pornography to spread from social networking.
The catholic church is now using Facebook to spread the religion. That was in Kompas yesterday. Ask the pope.
If anything, cellphones, internet and any other electronic gadgets that did not exist before makes information to spread faster. It makes life and business easier in most cases. Including sex, pornography and crime. Even before electricity was invented people have committed adultery.
What makes me wonder is, is SEX all there is in these moslem clerks mind? What is wrong with Islam, why is sex so bad and taboo? And when you think about it, men are the ones that come up with these ridiculous ideas.
Lets start from the idea that women have to cover up themselves that only their eyes and palms are aloud to be seen. They said, all the curves, which was actually invented by God, creates sin because it can lead men to think about sex. So, why didn’t God create women like a big bucket without curves then?
Then female circumcision. The reason for this is to keep women’s purity until they get married, and also to avoid women to experience the pleasure of intercourse so they will not commit adultery. Their clitoris are chopped off, in some places the labio is wounded and the vagina being sewn by the scar. The first experience for sex is a nightmare for these women. The practise can even lead to death because of infection and bleeding.
To desire is sin, to be aroused is sin, everything related to sex is sin. As if that is the only thing that is in these people’s mind.
Desires are there for procreation to begin with. In animals, if they don’t have this instinct they will become extinct.
I think, these moslem leaders are the one that needs to practise self control. Stop blaming for what is around and start reflecting whether they are really practicing the teachings or not. From what My Busy Brain see, it is them who have problems controlling and using what is supposed to be a gift from God.
May 25, 2009 at 12:47 am
Sex in Islam is not taboo. Read this article about sex in Islam:
http://uncensoredarabwomanblues.blogspot.com/2009/05/sex-in-islam.html
May 25, 2009 at 8:40 am
@Sakina: thanks for the reference. In the blog, it says,
Is this quoted in the Qur’an or is this a pure interpretation? It seems like the second.
I agree with your statement. Again, it is the failure of men controlling their acts. And another corruption of the teaching.
May 29, 2009 at 7:19 am
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Btw, I have pressie for you in my blog
May 31, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Okay sex is not taboo. What is taboo, well what is HARAM in Islam is zina (adultry) and yes internet and mobiles are used as a communication, as a means to an end in relation to extra marital sex or to free mix with males and have boyfriends, used for pornography and in the committing of zina. But that doesn’t make the techonology haram, jsut cause some abuse it. What is important is to give people the correct Islamic knowledge. This means teaching them that the things I mentioned above are haram. But a technology itself is not haram. At one point, when the Islamic State’s power collapsed in the sub-continent and in India (which comprises now of pakistan, india and bangladesh) the ulema there wanted to ban english, made it haram. But this was a poor reaction, without the proper understanding of ijtihad.
A fatwa is not ijtihad (exerting effort) to create a hukm (law) in Islam. So it cannot be used to say something is haram or halal etc. It is simply a sheikhs opinion. Now people make mistakes, and the ulema of Indonesia have made a mistake her. They should not be banning the internet, they should be moving to overthrow the kufr government/ideas and implement Islamic ones. Then people actually have taqwa, and this prevents people from the committing of sin.
On to other things: the comments on women wearing hijab and muslim men being sexualised is clearly incorrect. Clerks are like christian priests, they actually get married etc. They aren’t ’sexually frustrated’ as the document here seems to suggest. All the concepts presented are western views of Islam and are not actually Islam. This is an important thing to note down. Hijab is not to control mens desires that is not he purpose Allah gave for the woman to don hijab. Women wear it because it is a command of Allah. There is hikmah (wisdom) behind commands and prohibitions of Allah. Btw, men also have restrictions on them, ie. lowering their gaze just as women lower their gaze etc. Again, you have presented a completely westernised kufr view of Islam, which is (obviously) not Islam. It is the information the kufar use as propaganda against Islam, to make non-Knowledgable Muslims hate their own deen and for those who are also kufr hate Islam and to not come to the true deen of Allah (swt).
May 31, 2009 at 3:22 pm
One more point, Sex is not sinful. The point the ulema are making, is that the sex/sexuality advertised/on show in the areas they are concerned about are outside the permissible bounds of Islam. ie. zina/adultry. Islam recognise the 3 instincts of man, instinct to worship/spirituality, the procreational instinct and the survival instinct. It is HOW you regulate your desires and instincts which is important. And Islam lets you fulfill them within the appropriate bounds. THAT IS THE POINT!
June 6, 2009 at 9:54 pm
@Hassana: Thank you for stopping by. The way I see how Islam is taught, especially in my surroundings since I was young, was that women are the one that has to avoid men to feel desire, to avoid zina. How about men controlling themselves? Same as technology, the clerk (i.e. MUI) regarding the topic above. It is much easier to ban cellphones, facebook, etc., than controlling their thoughts. Islam clerks, I don’t think they are sexually repressed. Aren’t they the ones that says, “Women shall always be ready for their husbands if the husbands wants them” (check the Qur’an, it’s there) and they are the ones that believes having 4 wives?
Regarding the jilbab/hijab/cover, people have different reasons to wear it and I have another post regarding this issue. But if look at women at Afganistan, or those who only let their eyes shows, I don’t think they are not depressed.
Again, I would say lots of the teachings have been corrupted and people lose their common sense and just follow. Lots of people lost the essence of Islam and got stuck with the rituals instead.
June 7, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Hey, Salam Parvita.
You have very valid points. We can see that there is a terrible miss understanding and interpretation of Islam today. A lot of the reasons people give for an islamic law is not the reason, like I mentioned about hijab, it is ‘hikmah’ (widsom) that has been noticed after implementing a hukm (law) of Allah. But it is not what they call the ‘illa’ ie. evidence and cause or reason behind the hukm.
And 4 wives are permissible in Islam yes, but there are so many things that restrict most men from doing this, such as treating all wives equally which is really hard to do.
I mean sexual intercourse for the man and woman is a right in Islam within marriage, and if it is wanted it should be given. But of course the man has to be wise, and know that there are so many other factors that come in to it. Eg. the law in Afghanistan allowing this. It is from an islamic background. It does not legitimise rape in marriage as western media liked to say. Afghani women don’t mind it cause they realise it has an islamic basis. Here is a good discussion on the issue with a woman from Afghani Women Rights group talking about it.
If men and women are both educated, things like rape or domestic violence will not happen. It is not something inherently islamic either, i mean as in violence isn’t. It is something from the human. Islam does not cause it. In America every few minutes a woman is assulted in some manner, and at least 1 in 4 women in the UK have been sexually assulted or raped. So it is not Islam that brings these things about, and their is it democracy and capitalism with its rights and freedoms that can stop it.
Rather, I would like to put this to you Parvita to make us all here think a little bit more about the state of the Muslim world specifically–Rather it is the lack of Islamic implementation (in its complete form, with Khilafah–islamic state) that has caused the problems, the society being uneducated and implementing islamic incorrectly that is the cause of all issues.
Think about what Khilafah means, and how it does link to the rest of society. It is important to look at all the laws within islam and how they are implemented to find the solution.
I enjoy your blog and our discussions.
Thanks Parvita.
Ma-assalam.
(ps. sorry for the long comment. can’t help myself)
June 2, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Too bad I do not own a Blackberry so that I can join you all in hell
It all has this feel of incrementally whittling away at the periphery until one reaches the core. It seems that once social networking is done, then mobile phones, it will be time to make computers haram as well.
Then, if we are talking about removing temptation (primarily from the eyes of men) the NU should turn its attention to women in the workplace. It stands to NU reason, one would think, that you would remove the chance of affairs if you removed women from the workplace.
May be the NU could start with the DPR?
I tend to agree with Ecky. This is just a case of some grumpy old men (and perhaps a few young ones as well) with nothing better to do and they think that these kinds of issues will make them relevant again.
Too bad for them.
It all reminds me of Forrest Gump, “stupid is as stupid does!”
June 2, 2009 at 11:44 pm
makin dilarang, pasti makin seru…
June 7, 2009 at 1:29 pm
I forgot to leave you all the link, here it is:
June 8, 2009 at 3:03 pm
*sedang berpikir keras untuk membeli kaos dengan tulisan besar di bagian belakangnya: demi Tuhan, saya Atheis..*
July 26, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Hi,
Just thought i’d leave my 2 cents worth:
1stly the ulama’s have made an error in judgement by saying that interneting and mobile messaging is bad. Bad behaviour have been around since before all this technologies are out… Sadly the ulama’s are insuffieciently uneducated…I hope they will see the light soon…
2ndly i feel the writer have made some unnecessary comments about islam, Please, you are no diff from the silly ulamas as you too are making a judgement before even trying to find out more about islam. Being a muslim, i see islam as a beautiful and peaceful religion, lots of things are forbidden but also they are ways to get to things through HALAL methods. SO i do hope the writer try to find out more first.. if u think the ulamas are silly i agree but dont judge the whole of islam just cos of these idiots….